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Thursday, January 11, 2007

Frank Walton: Consistent?

Frank Walton accused the Rational Response Squad of fascism today:

No matter which way you look at it, if you're a Christian, RRS wish you never existed. You're better off dead. Just like the fascist Nazis who wanted to rid the world of "irrational people" like the Jews, so RRS, a fascist atheist group, want to rid the world of Christians (and religious people in general).


Now I don't think that the RRS wants to throw Christians into concentration camps. I think that the RRS wants to "rid the world" of Christians the same way I do: by turning them into atheists or agnostics.

But, for the sake of argument, I am going to agree with Frank's claim for the time being. Let's all agree that the RRS wants to do away with Christians like in some kind of Nazi Concentration Camp.

While Frank never explicitly says so, he most definitely implies that ridding the world of a group of people is a bad thing. Frank is clearly implying that death camps and torture a la The Nazi Party is a bad thing.

But what is worse, Nazi Concentration Camps, or Hell? I feel confident that even Frank Walton would concede that Hell would be worse than the worst concentration camp imaginable.

Frank lets his feelings known about atheists:

Look, I'm a proud Jesus freak, but I would never say that I want to get rid of atheists.


But the question arises, should unrepentant atheists, upon their death, be cast into Hell forever? What are Frank's thoughts on the Christian belief that atheists are doomed to Hell for all eternity? Does Frank believe that this is proper and just? Does Frank want atheists to be cast into Hell when they die? Why or why not?

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3 Comments:

At 1/11/2007 2:12 PM, Blogger Frank Walton declaimed...

Kinneypoo,

But the question arises, should unrepentant atheists, upon their death, be cast into Hell forever?

Yes. But why should that matter to an atheist anyway? You almost make it sound like it's absolutely wrong.

What are Frank's thoughts on the Christian belief that atheists are doomed to Hell for all eternity?

Everybody deserves to go to hell, even Christians. The only difference is we have Jesus who justified us in the eyes of God.

Does Frank believe that this is proper and just?

Yes.

Does Frank want atheists to be cast into Hell when they die? Why or why not?

No, I don't want that. Thank you for asking! You've just given me the opportunity to repudiate your premise. Indeed I would still be consistent in that I want people to live a meaningful life and NOT go to hell. I hope and pray that they would become Christians. On the other hand, RRS want to get rid of me, knowing that it wouldn't matter anyway since, as atheist William Provine says, according to a non-Christian Darwinian worldview, "There are no gods, no purposes, and no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That's the end of me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning in life, and no free will for humans, either. What an unintelligible idea."

Indeed, it's so unintelligible it would give you and RRS good grounds to get rid of me. Wow, you guys would be completely consistent too!

Thanks,

Frank Walton

 
At 1/11/2007 2:55 PM, Blogger Mark Cote declaimed...

What is he talking about?
What language is he using?
Did he start with Kinneypoo?
Man I hope this "not taking a fucking thing Frank Walton says serious from now on" isn't too extreme.

Plus I've seen your other goofy troublemaking posts over at
http://thumbjig.blogspot.com/

They're right on, clean up your act Mr. Walton.

 
At 1/11/2007 9:38 PM, Blogger Young Physicalist declaimed...

Aaron Kinney:But the question arises, should unrepentant atheists, upon their death, be cast into Hell forever?

Frank Walton:Yes. But why should that matter to an atheist anyway? You almost make it sound like it's absolutely wrong.

Me: First, what Aaron Kinney's views are is irrelevant. This is an analysis of the internal consistency of YOUR beliefs, not his. Furthermore, Aaron Kinney is an ethical realist (an egoist, to be precise.)

 

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