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Sunday, August 06, 2006

Hellbound Alleee slams liberals

Still no liberalism poking its ugly head on my watch, ladies and gents, but Hellbound Alleee has slammed the knee-jerk liberals who berate Larry Darby for not being a "good atheist":

I'm sick of reading what "other atheists" say about him. It's nothing but collectivist rhetoric about Larry Darby having some kind of responsibility to think like and agree with "atheists" as if there is some kind of worldview at work here. Christians: these atheists are suffering from the same affliction as you. They think that they are a part of something big, and that that something is more important than they are. Atheism is not a collective, not a worldview, not a philosophy. Can we be human beings, please?

What, are you asking liberals to behave with dignity and stop burdening everyone with their childish collectivist games of "you're in my gang"? I can't really see them stopping any time soon. They have invested their whole identity in these juvenile games. "Atheism" is not even a label that deserves any attention, let alone liberal fanaticism.

People want to know when these religious wars are going to end. You have to realize that they have nothing to do with individualism. For individualists like us, it makes about as much sense to kill someone in the name of a religion than it does to kill a mosquito because you want to eradicate flight. Until your belief that we're all part of "groups" and our identity is vested in the "group"- be it racial, religious, national, or otherwise- is eradicated, people will keep killing each other in the name of those "groups". And you bigoted knee-jerk liberals are part of the problem. Take off your fucking collectivist glasses and talk to us as human beings.

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At 8/06/2006 4:59 PM, Blogger Young Physicalist declaimed...

Which is why you and others go around prading under the group name of "rational individualists" or "Freethinking Free Market Anarchists". Face it, groupings are inevitable and your position is self-defeating.

At 8/06/2006 5:17 PM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

What? I used to use "rational individualist" to call my ideology, but I don't any more. And I never called myself a "Freethinking Free Market Anarchists".

More to the point, what does that have to do with the evil collectivism, of seeing people as representatives of their racial or religious group, that people like you promote?

At 8/06/2006 10:58 PM, Blogger beepbeepitsme declaimed...

RE: "And you bigoted knee-jerk liberals are part of the problem. Take off your fucking collectivist glasses and talk to us as human beings."

The US must be one of the few places where "liberalism" is considered collectivist.

It might be a cultural difference attached to the definition, I dunno..

I consider myself a liberal because I am NOT a collectivist.

LIBERALISM: "A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority."

At 8/06/2006 11:59 PM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

Yes, as always I am addressing the Ugly Americans.

At 8/07/2006 7:36 AM, Blogger Alonzo Fyfe declaimed...

First, the Hellbound Alleee posting does not mention "liberals."

Second, in your post, in one and the same breath, you criticize tribalism and yet you write to criticize whole groups of people based on a tribal identity ('liberal').

This is a bit hypocritical, isn't it?

At 8/07/2006 10:34 AM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

Unlike liberals, I don't hold to the belief that a person is a representant of a token of his political ideology. I just treat them as individuals who, for reasons of bad education or temporary immorality, have decided to be propagandists for state coercion.



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