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Friday, April 07, 2006

Question of the Day # 36

Image hosting by PhotobucketHow many men and women do you know who carry around pictures of their FOO (family of origin) and/or their spouse in their wallet? How many Christians wear crosses and t-shirts with "John 3:16" on them? How many Americans wear the flag on their shirt?

How many individualists publicly display their values? What possible effects could public displays of individualist values have on "public" perceptions of those values?

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At 4/07/2006 6:19 PM, Blogger Steve declaimed...

Well, displaying symbols of your values publically could influence or offend people who see them. Other than that, I don't know.

At 4/07/2006 6:51 PM, Blogger Andrew Greve declaimed...

I was thinking that the creation of individualist products, such as t-shirts, would benefit the producers of the shirt, who would, of course, be individualists. I think you can trust that individualists will try to keep their money out of the exploitive process (ie. they won't use their profits to buy politicians to get subsidies) moreso than non-individualist producers. If we are to leave behind the "old society" and form our own, we need to begin providing goods and services on our own, outside the "old channels". If individualists are able to keep all of their profits, then more people will want to be individualists. A good way to tell if a producer is an individualist or not is if their products (im mainly thinking clothing here) have individualist messages on them.

I also think that because the vast majority of people don't think, they will "buy into" an individualist message just as easily as they would a collectivist message. People are sheep...and I would rather have sheep which followed individualist values than false, collectivist values.

People who would get offened by an Atheist or Anarchist t-shirt probably don't deserve the time of day, anyway, so wearing such shirts would serve to keep undesirable people at bay.

Also, wouldn't it be great if individualist guys and gals could find each other at the gym or in the store simply by reading each others shirts? I think there's a reason why the Christians wear crosses and they can find each other more easily.

At 4/07/2006 10:41 PM, Blogger Young Physicalist declaimed...

This isn't on topic, but I have something I'd like to inform you militant atheists of. A new religious document has been found, which has some consequences for religionists. Source:

At 4/08/2006 1:47 AM, Blogger TheJollyNihilist declaimed...

Public display of values immediately causes me to judge the individual publicly professing this thing or that.

As a rather militant atheist, seeing crosses and the like makes me suspicious of the individual, and less likely to interact with him/her.

As somebody who frowns upon jingoism, I have a similar reaction to those who advertise their patriotism. As George Carlin once observed, "Symbols are for the symbol-minded." I just can't get wrapped up in the whole flag/ribbon/Pledge of Allegiance thing. To me, a flag is a piece of colored fabric to which people assign value rather randomly.

At 4/08/2006 10:21 AM, Blogger The ArtDude declaimed...

Reminds me of that scene in "Life of Brian" where the crowd has packed themselves in an alley and when Brian wakes he opens the blinds to see all of them.

Brian: "Repeat after me. We are all individuals."
Crowd: "We are all individuals."

And then some lone guy out in the crowd raises his hand and says, "I'm not."

At 4/08/2006 4:54 PM, Blogger Andrew Greve declaimed...

I have to disagree with FrancestheMagnificent and the artdude. All social movements have a culture attached to them. Of course, many of those cultures have been "false", in that they were based on false values. In a free society, culture based on values will be championed.

Don't you see the beauty of the idea of individualist t-shirt slogans? There are an infinite amount of things to put on them! The Christians are so boring that the only thing they can think to do is quote some silly book and pass it off as a moral argument.

I would love to see a cute girl wearing a creative, unique freedom message. I would love to become freinds with a guy who wore a shirt that said "The team is nothing without the individual" instead of the all too typical "There is no I in Team".

At 4/09/2006 10:22 PM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...

Comment submitted via email by "Jody."

I have news for aspergian humanist: the "gospel of judas" was found (?) in the 1970's. It's coming out now because it has been 'translated' and will be unveiled on the christian right National Geographic Magazine channel on Sunday...just before easter, but, hey, no coincidence there!



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