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Monday, January 30, 2006

Kill the Heretics!

As just another reminder of how seriously Christians are our cultural enemies, I'm submitting the following quote from the administrator at Gene Cook's UnchainedRadio forum.
For my part, i actually think that Christian heretics deserve the death penalty, but given our social and legal context, that is impossible. It is not "murder" to put someone to death for killing someone's physical body (after a fair trial where a person is given the chance to defend himself, of course), nor is it murder to put someone to death for killing someone's soul by indoctrinating them into real heresy.
Notice how that famous objective Christian morality goes right out the door! This guy was born about five hundred years too late.

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At 1/31/2006 6:30 AM, Blogger Bahnsen Burner declaimed...

You're right, Zach, truly frightening. I've noticed some Christians becoming more and more candid when it comes to expressing their anti-man ideology. The same individual you quote, for instance, wrote the following in this thread:

"As to slavery, i believe you are correct: slavery is perfectly biblical--always has been, always will be until Christ comes again and sets up a society that is free of all work, hardship, suffering, and servitude of any kind."

And in this thread, one of his fellow-travellers wrote the following when asked to comment on the above quote:

"Yes, slavery is biblical and I'd agree with my BLACK friend TreyFrog. OT/NT believers owned slaves and were slaves, the Mosaic law legislated slavery and and the NT gives principles of ownership re: slaves, slaves were instructed to submit to their masters in the OT & NT, both freedom and slavery could be considered a blessing, and some form of slavery will continue till the end of time. Slavery is considered to be neither "here nor there" by the Apostle Paul and is a recognized social institution in the NT."

They claim to have an "objective" ethical standard, and yet embrace a mentality which explicitly rejects man's right to exist for his own sake. We already knew this by the overall nature of their worldview, so this is not news per se. But the baldfaced admission to more extreme expressions of that anti-man worldview is noteworthy and memorable.

So if you encounter a Christian who says that slavery is unbiblical, here are some choice confessions to the contrary.

At 1/31/2006 8:21 AM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...

Well, at least they're Biblically consistent.

At 1/31/2006 10:30 AM, Blogger Not Reformed declaimed...

Words can barely describe the sick feeling reading that post gave me.

Its interesting to read the interactions back and forth between Christians and non-believers...but when I read something like that, it definitely gives me pause.

He wants to see heretics EXECUTED!!! WTF?

The truly scary thing is...I'm sure his views are not unique in the Christian world...and although it may be a 'fringe' of the christian movement...they would love to grab more and more power in our own US government, and the world at large.

At 1/31/2006 10:59 AM, Blogger Bahnsen Burner declaimed...

In the end, it all serves to demonstrate that god-belief can be consulted to validate any practice one wants to engage in. On this point, there is no fundamental difference between the Christians and the suicide bombers of Islam. Both consider "heretics" a threat and actions to destroy them justified.

At 1/31/2006 3:11 PM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...

Our Christian visitors seem to be curiously silent...

At 1/31/2006 3:45 PM, Blogger Paul Manata declaimed...

what would you like us to say, zach? Do you think the quote bothers any of us so thta we must comment? Maybe you think that, granting the claim to be absurd and immoral, we should reudiate our faith or that there is a problem with the Christian worldview based on what a Christian says (note, Moore constantly confuses the system qua system with *adherents* of *that* system)? Well, if so, would you like me to quote some stupid things atheists have said and done? And then, somehow, atheism as a philosophical pov is less tenable?

At 1/31/2006 3:53 PM, Blogger Not Reformed declaimed...

What are your feelings on Trey's statement, Paul?

Do you wish that Heretics could be executed under Church Court law?

I'm guessing that Zach's comment about lack of Christian response was because no Christian was saying a peep either FOR or AGAINST the idea of killing heretics. Why is that?

At 1/31/2006 6:34 PM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...

Maybe, instead of trying to assume what I mean by asking the question, you could just answer it?

Which is it, Paul? You've already implied a hatred for us, are you dedicated enough to your faith to go on record in saying that you want us dead?

At 1/31/2006 7:36 PM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

Hey Manata, you patsy little godboy, you want to kill me ? BRING IT ON.

At 2/01/2006 8:07 AM, Blogger VanTilsGhost declaimed...

Where are Paul Manata's and Streetapologist's comments on this great and 'burning' question?

I see them commenting elsewhere, but remaining strangely silent on this issue.

Why could that be?

If they believe that killing heretics is a good idea, why not say so? The Bible is chock-full of support for this? Why remain silent? If they don't agree that killing heretics is a good thing, is their division with one of their Christian brethren?

Oh dear!

At 2/01/2006 8:14 AM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...

I think Paul has already answered the question. Bear in mind that his typical modus operandi is to project his own psychology onto his enemies. Given that fact, notice this quote- "granting the claim to be absurd and immoral, we should reudiate our faith."

At 2/01/2006 9:22 AM, Blogger Daniel declaimed...

Did you guys see that Unchained Radio was going to host "The Atheist Hour"? Someone ought to volunteer to be the guest.

At 2/01/2006 11:02 AM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...


Yeah, I've been on that program already. Gene's a nice enough guy (despite being a Christian), but unless you're a big fan of the TAG, there's not a whole lot to be gained by listening. I tried to talk about evolutionary theory and got sidetracked by Original Sin.

At 2/03/2006 5:59 PM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...

Well, this post is about to slip off the front page without any Christians having come out and emphatically declaimed it. I guess that means that we atheists had better be careful when walking late at night, lest we bump into one of our Christian fellows brimming with the blood-lust of Christ.

I guess the old prayer might be appropriate: "Dear Lord, protect me from your followers."



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