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Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Question of the Day #11: Heroes

Do atheists have heroes? What is a hero?

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At 11/22/2005 9:49 AM, Blogger Niels declaimed...

Sure they do. A hero is someone who's personality or a part of it you admire. Usually the hero has a special gift, but it's not solely the gift that you admire, it's what's being done with it.

At 11/22/2005 10:23 AM, Blogger AdNihilo declaimed...

The most well known 'heros' of the 'non theist' world would likely be its founders in Aristotle, Socrates and I would think Epicurus as well... "Free Thinkers" during the age of enlightment and the resulting Founding Fathers of America it produced professing 'deist' beliefs as non theists too fearful to declare any sort of complete non belief in skygods would surely be considered more recent 'heros' to non theists or non believers [Jefferson, Thomas Paine, etc]. For the 20th century, I would consider that century's foremost atheist philosphers, Eric From and Albert Ellis, as Heros.. There's many more of course who bravely faced 'death as infidels and heretics' at the hands of violent Christians and its virulent deathly dogma throughout history..

At 11/22/2005 11:46 AM, Blogger Not Reformed declaimed...

Personally, over the past year I'd say that the following folks are my heroes, and the book/movie they created to become my heroes:

Dan Barker (Losing faith in faith)
Brian Flemming (The god who wasn't there)
Sam Harris (The End of Faith)
Carl Sagain (The Demon Haunted World)

And yes...non_believers can have heroes. :)

At 11/22/2005 11:53 AM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...

Excuse me, I'm sorry, but that's not all it takes to be a hero. A hero kills people, people that wish him harm. A hero is part human and part supernatural. A hero is born out of a childhood trauma, or out of a disaster, and must be avenged.


Sorry, I could resist that Dwight quote from "The Office."

My hero? Thomas Jefferson, hands down. The guy took a razor blade to the Bible while he was a sitting President. That's what America used to be, and should be again.

At 11/22/2005 12:25 PM, Blogger Aaron Kinney declaimed...

Heroes are people who perform actions, usually drastic, that are admired by others. Often heroes are idolized or made into symbols or superhuman figures.

I have two heroes: Carl Sagan and Maynard James Keenan. We all know who Carl Sagan is, but some of you might not know who Maynard James Keenan is.

Maynard is the lead singer for the bands Tool and A Perfect Circle. The music from both bands (And Maynards lyrics) are very atheistic and anti-conformist. He writes very deep, moving, and inspired lyrics. And Tool is one of the most respected and admired bands in the entire music scene. Their debut album, Opiate, was a total assault on organized religion and conformist society, and their later albums have also pushed the same message.

At 11/22/2005 12:50 PM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

All valid choices, but I don't really believe in "heroes". Courage is simply the willpower to do whatever is needed, even when it can lead you into the depths, out of necessity. In the case of philosophy, the burning desire to speak up and not let evil stand alone, simply because you can't let it. In that sense, I think all of us are little heroes.

At 11/22/2005 4:57 PM, Blogger mathyoo declaimed...

"need" is too strong of a word. I do have heroes, but I hardly "need" them to be happy or healthy. I think it's good to have them, as long as we can keep an open mind and not elevate them to levels beyond their worth. Thomas Jefferson, for example (yes, he's one of my heroes too) kept slaves and had illigitimate children with at least on of them. No human is perfect, and in some ways, knowing my heroes' foibles makes me appreciate them more.

At 11/22/2005 5:32 PM, Blogger Butterfly Fox declaimed...

Mr. Aaron Kinney said: Their debut album, Opiate, was a total assault on organized religion and conformist society, and their later albums have also pushed the same message.

Wow, you really think so? Believe it or not, I actually find Tool to be quite spiritual. Interesting.

At 11/22/2005 5:43 PM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

Don't confuse "spiritual" with "religious".

At 11/22/2005 10:22 PM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

"Hero-worship is strongest where there
is least regard for human freedom."
-- Herbert Spencer



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