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Thursday, November 03, 2005

Eliminating "faith" ? / Top 10 signs you're a Greenie liberal

Atheist Revolution tells us that we are taking time "documenting and analyzing the nature of the problem" while neglecting solutions to the problems of Christianity.

Solutions to the problems of Christianity ? For myself, and I know no one else cares about what I have to say, but I don't want to solve the problems of Christianity, I want to eliminate Christianity from public discourse and promote individualism.

My question is, how can one eliminate social and religious problems ? All we can do is our little part in spreading information and trying to deconvert people. I have written about this before and have upcoming articles on this topic, but I've mostly explained the important parts of this on the Witnessing Nonbelief shows. I could talk about the "core" model of evangelism, and I'll keep this topic in mind for future articles.

As for my top 10, this is not a very funny list. I can't get myself to laugh too much at Greenies, since most of what they do is activism that borders on terrorism (and in some cases, outright terrorism). But I hope this list is still mildly funny.

10. You’re furious that pounds kill pets, so you support an organization which kills pets.

9. You think coal pollution is better than nuclear waste, and then you complain about the quality of our air.

8. You think “risk assessment” is a board game.

7. You constantly complain about layoffs, but you think losing millions of jobs (and billions of dollars) is okay if it helps reduce the air temperature by a fraction of a degree. You think people promoting the alternative of sound technological solutions are crackpots.

6. You’re pissed off when people serve you meat, but you act surprised when people blast you for wanting to enforce veganism on your future innocent babies.

5. You think the precautionary principle is AOK, except when it’s applied against you. Then it becomes a matter of principles.

4. You get mad when anyone says you think other animals are more important than people, but you cheer when hunters die or animal researchers are threatened with their grandmother's corpse.

3. You think “The Tragedy of the Commons” is a Shakespeare play.

2. You say we should respect all life, then you gulp antibiotics. The hypocrisy of this doesn’t register in your mind at all.

1. You’re so concerned about third-world hunger that you campaign to ban life-saving GM foods from Africa.

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At 11/03/2005 1:22 AM, Blogger Pixelation declaimed...

You just want to shut me up because I recognize your straw man tactics and can back up my arguments. You have consistently refused to talk about the issues. Wow. No wonder 'no one else cares about what [you] have to say.'

Wow. If the alternative to greenie liberal is to be a bloody fascist, I'll stay the greenie

At 11/03/2005 1:26 AM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

No, I'm a libertarian. I don't want the government regulating how children are raised and I certainly don't want whackos like you starving children either. Or killing hunters and animal researchers.

Being a total idiot, you don't understand the difference between not answering you and not being able to answer. I do not answer to you because you are an evil bastard who does not deserve a reply. I'm merely making a little exception here to clarify my position against your baseless slanders.

Any other comment from you will be deleted permanently. I do not respect you or your speech.

At 11/03/2005 1:35 AM, Blogger hashishan prophet declaimed...

Oh Francois Tremblay Kanadian, thou art fucked in the eyes of the Lord.

You mess my green earth. Thou foul christian fool. Thou art not fit for my princess Alleee.

Cursed be you and your Monkey Christ. I never knew thee.

At 11/03/2005 1:37 AM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

hashishan prophet, you may post religious spam on everyone's blogs, but I'll take you over Pixelation any day.

At 11/03/2005 10:20 AM, Blogger Zachary Moore declaimed...

I agree, if we were to actually go to the trouble to "fix" all the things that are wrong with Christianity, we would turn it into Atheism.

Have you seen Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode regarding the Animal Rights movement? If not, I'll send you a copy.

At 11/03/2005 12:32 PM, Blogger Aaron Kinney declaimed...

OMG I love Bullshit! I didnt know they did one on animal rights people. Im gonna have to find that episode, STAT!

At 11/03/2005 3:02 PM, Blogger Thomas declaimed...

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At 11/03/2005 3:05 PM, Blogger Thomas declaimed...

Let me just say up front that I am a libertarian -- practically an anarchist -- and a fan of the Austrian School of Economics. I don't believe in coercion, and I'm skeptical of many of the policies of the environmental movement. I think that the "tragedy of the commons" is best avoided by a wider allocation of property rights and a free market in pollution credits and so forth.

That said, I don't see how this applies to the questions of non-human animals and their rights. I see a concern for animal welfare to an obvious consequence of an atheistical outlook. There is no magical "substance of human" that gives all members of our species more intrinsic worth than every member of all other species. We are all related by common descent and many animals share our morally-relevant neurological characteristics -- the capacity for pain and pleasure. Many other animals have a limited sense of their own personhood, as well.

Whether you're a utilitarian, a Kantian, a libertarian, a Rawlsian, or a strident Objectivist, there are always going to be marginal cases where some human being is going to be less deserving than some non-human by the relevant ethical criteria of your system. The choice you face is whether to remove the human from your ethical concern, or elevate the animal to that realm.

The only people who do not face this prospect are Christians and other religionists who ascribe a mystical worth to a human being based on an irreducible difference between humans and all other animals. People who understand Darwinian evolution and who have studied the essentials of neurology and cognitive science do not have this option.

I don't want the government to interfere with your decision to eat a bacon cheeseburger and I don't want scientists to be murdered by criminal extremists. Let the animal-rights meme flourish on its own without the coercive influence of the state or the mob. I do ask believers in human supremacy to justify their belief in a non-axiomatic or mystical way.



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