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Wednesday, September 14, 2005

I Can't Believe it Happened!

Aaron Kinney Permalink   16 comments

Credit goes to The Whiskey Bar for the image and to Positive Blasphemy for bringing my attention to it.

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At 9/14/2005 1:26 PM, Blogger Hellbound Alleee declaimed...

You can just see the pepto bismal in the meeting before they decided to have him apologize. It was the last thing they could think of. No more ass-covering. I guess they can claim that the administration is honest and forthright, and all those journalist are just meanies. Except when they were reporting on Clinton.

That oughta hold the bastards for awhile.

 
At 9/14/2005 10:50 PM, Blogger Bahnsen Burner declaimed...

D'oh! Paul Manata opened up the comments function on his blog. I wonder what persuaded him to make this change?

 
At 9/15/2005 9:24 AM, Blogger Don Jones declaimed...

Dawson said, "D'oh! Paul Manata opened up the comments function on his blog. I wonder what persuaded him to make this change?"

It's not like you guys are actually going to be refuting him any time soon... :)

 
At 9/15/2005 10:13 AM, Blogger Bahnsen Burner declaimed...

GF wrote: "It's not like you guys are actually going to be refuting him any time soon... :)"

Indeed, there's no need to. Such nonsense is its own refutation.

 
At 9/15/2005 11:45 AM, Blogger Aaron Kinney declaimed...

I wonder if my previous comments are restored of if they are still deleted? HGe removed comments in the middle of a discussion on them between me and him.

 
At 9/15/2005 11:46 AM, Blogger Aaron Kinney declaimed...

"It's not like you guys are actually going to be refuting him any time soon... :)"

Refute this, sucker!

Paul: I believe in Jesus/God and I have faith.

Me: I believe in FSM also due to faith, and my religion says that it created your religion because of the FSM's flimsy moral standards!

Ha ha!

 
At 9/15/2005 12:10 PM, Blogger Don Jones declaimed...

Aaron said, "Refute this, sucker!

Paul: I believe in Jesus/God and I have faith.

Me: I believe in FSM also due to faith, and my religion says that it created your religion because of the FSM's flimsy moral standards!"


Ok. I'll use some of dawson's brilliance - "...there's no need to. Such nonsense is its own refutation." :)

lol

 
At 9/15/2005 12:36 PM, Blogger Aaron Kinney declaimed...

GF76,

Congratualtions on successfully arguing for atheism! Did you just deconvert?

Your utilization of Dawson’s argument DID refute my FSM argument, but it ALSO refuted your Chrsitian faith. Did you realize that you were adopting an atheistic worldview when you used Dawsons argument?

For you to refute FSM but retain the validity of your Christian faith, you need to use an argument from the Christian worldview and from Christian standards.

Would it be logical for me, as an atheist, to use a Christian argument to refute Islam?

I love it when Christians get suckered into stealing from atheistic worldviews!

 
At 9/15/2005 1:32 PM, Blogger Don Jones declaimed...

Aaron said, "Your utilization of Dawson’s argument DID refute my FSM argument, but it ALSO refuted your Chrsitian faith. Did you realize that you were adopting an atheistic worldview when you used Dawsons argument?

For you to refute FSM but retain the validity of your Christian faith, you need to use an argument from the Christian worldview and from Christian standards."


You really are desperate, aren't you, aaron. You see FSM is 'nonsense' to me and refutes itself whereas Christianity is not. Just like ya'lls worldview refutes itself because it is 'nonsense'. Secondly, I was mocking you guys because "Dawson's argument" was not an argument. Thirdly, even if it was 'an argument', it was by no means strictly an 'atheistic' argument and would not commit me to such a position (and neither have you nor anyone else shown it to be). As a matter of fact, remember when we had the falsifiability discussion on your blog? One of the critiques of falsifiability was from Brand Blanshard who was an avowed atheist philosopher. Using his argument did not commit me to his rationalism or atheism. Fourthly, since you like to assert, all arguments utilize "Christian standards" since without "Christian standards" you would left with foolishness.

 
At 9/15/2005 4:07 PM, Blogger Bahnsen Burner declaimed...

GF76: "You really are desperate, aren't you, aaron. You see FSM is 'nonsense' to me and refutes itself whereas Christianity is not."

This just means you're selective in which form of nonsense you want to believe. Whereas people like Aaron and I are just being consistent in our rejection of nonsense.

GF76: "Just like ya'lls worldview refutes itself because it is 'nonsense'."

I'd like to see an argument for that. What is it about a worldview that does not adopt the cartoon universe premise that you find nonsensical? Or, is it nonsensical precisely because it does not adopt the cartoon universe of theism?

GF76: "Secondly, I was mocking you guys"

I see, so, you really didn't have anything serious to contribute. Got it.

GF76: "because 'Dawson's argument' was not an argument."

That's true, it was simply an observation, one which is sufficient to put the matter to rest. But for informal purposes, we could treat it like Bahnsen's poof and call it an argument, even though it isn't one.

GF76: "Thirdly, even if it was 'an argument', it was by no means strictly an 'atheistic' argument and would not commit me to such a position (and neither have you nor anyone else shown it to be)."

I completely disagree. Something that is identified as nonsense could only be objectionable in the context of a rational worldview in which the proper orientation between subject and object is affirmed and maintained from the most fundamental level on up. Christianity does precisely the opposite, having reversed the relationship of subject and object, giving primacy to consciousness over the things it supposedly "creates." This is known as subjectivism, and it is the essential problem of your worldview. And not only that, you worship a walking contradiction to boot. And you say our worldview is nonsense? Bloody amazing!

 
At 9/15/2005 5:40 PM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

Funny how they complain about our worldviews but none of these cowards had any refutation of mine when I posted it. Stupid Christians.

 
At 9/15/2005 6:09 PM, Blogger Bahnsen Burner declaimed...

Yes, that's right, Franc. We're more than willing to present our positions on things. If our "unbelieving worldview" were so nonsensical, why aren't they showing us where it's nonsensical? I think all they have is catcalling and idle bickering.

 
At 9/15/2005 8:49 PM, Blogger Francois Tremblay declaimed...

Maybe I need to post an abridged version again and again until they shut up.

 
At 9/16/2005 3:16 PM, Blogger Aaron Kinney declaimed...

Groundfighter, quit making insulting claims like "you really are desperate" and such. Your trying way too hard to be like Manata, and it shows. Besides, you suck at it. Youre not evil enough. Weve got enough baby Christian insulters on this blog, and you just might motivate me to change my mind and get all your asses classified as "spam" and then be banned.

Then youll have to taste your own medicine and find some other blog to post insults at.

Until you see the marinara-saucy-truth of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, which President Bush endorses and three of the borad members of the Kansas Board of Education endorse, then Im just going to have to call you a blind fool who willingly supresses the truth.

Time to don my pirate regalia. RAmen.

 
At 9/16/2005 4:24 PM, Blogger Don Jones declaimed...

Wow another insightful post from Aaron! You are awesome!

Your post showed you were desperate and I wasn't trying to a meanie, Aaron, so no need to throw another hissy fit.

Aaron said, "and you just might motivate me to change my mind and get all your asses classified as "spam" and then be banned."

Oh no aaron please don't change your mind. Please please please please don't do it.

 
At 9/16/2005 8:28 PM, Blogger Bahnsen Burner declaimed...

GF76: "Your post showed you were desperate..."

Can you explain why you think Aaron showed that he was desperate? Desperate to do what?

 

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